Deconstructing Mindfulness with Dr. Rebecca Williams

In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Williams discusses her definition of what is mindfulness. Tune in today to hear what tips, advise and words of wisdom she can provide you in just 25 minutes.

February 1st, 2022

Episode Notes

Memorable Moments:

  • 4: 32 So being mindful means to stay, it’s to center yourself in the present moment, which a lot of us can do, if we really focus on it and we learn the skill.
  • 5: 43 Mindfulness is a way to slow down the ability to react to craving. So if you have a craving for drugs or alcohol, for example, even during the pandemic, it’s been a little bit out of control, of course. We’ll talk about that I hope. You know mindfulness just tells you to be in the present moment, slow down, breathe.
  • 9: 40 This is an ongoing practice of continually taking the negative thoughts that are agitating you, affecting you negatively and moving them through. Thoughts aren’t permanent. Feelings aren’t permanent.
  • 16:00 In fact, addiction in the justice system is between 50 and 80% of folks who are incarcerated, have a substance abuse problem. So any clinician out there you’re going to be dealing with folks who’ve been in the justice system if you’re dealing with addiction. 
  • 17: 46 Usually there’s softer emotions underneath that are being kind of protected, like feeling sad, hurt some of these softer emotions. Along with bringing it into the room, we also want you to bring patients into the room. My feeling is that stuck emotions really need your attention and they also need to have that kind of, that yin yang of self-compassion and patience.
  • 22:20 A lapse is not a relapse. So if someone lapses to a substance I would recommend that they remind themselves that a lapse is a one-time, you know, falling off the wagon kind of thing, where you’d use a drug or alcohol, and then you realize, oh my god, let me get back on the horse. Let me, let me get back on track.
  • 21:30 I would just want to convey to folks your listeners that call it a lapse, move into the lapse. If you have a lapse and get, go back to your wellness basket and return to the things that make you feel the strongest.

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Dr. Rebecca Williams

Rebecca Williams is an award-winning author, psychologist, and wellness expert specializing in healthy recovery from mental illness, addiction, and life’s challenges. For the past 25 years, her work has focused on building resilience and embracing emotional well-being. She has been a program director at the VA San Diego Healthcare System and an associate clinical professor at The University of California, San Diego School of Medicine. A life-long yoga enthusiast, Rebecca has also been a yoga instructor. She was able to combine the ancient wisdom of yoga and mindfulness with compassionate recovery from addiction in her books. Rebecca has collaborated for over ten years with marriage and family therapist, Julie Kraft. Their first book together, The Mindfulness Workbook for Addiction: A Guide to Coping with the Grief, Stress, and Anger that Trigger Addictive Behaviors is popular with both therapists and recovering clients. Their workbook is used in virtual counseling, group therapy, and addiction recovery centers across the country. The Mindfulness Workbook for Addiction has been translated into Korean, Japanese, Hungarian, and coming soon in Russian! Continuing their writing journey together, Rebecca and Julie created a new book, The Gift of Recovery: 52 Mindful Ways to Live Joyfully Beyond Addiction. The Gift of Recovery is like a pocket coach offering lots of in-the-moment mindfulness skills and adds powerful daily affirmations as clients continue on their personal healing journey.

The Mindfulness Workbook for AddictionA Guide to Coping with the Grief, Stress, and Anger that Trigger Addictive Behaviors (winner of the San Diego Book Award) and The Gift of Recovery 52 Mindful Ways to Live Joyfully Beyond Addiction (Gold Winner of the Living Now Book Award and Silver Winner of the Nautilus Book Award)